party shout

bad economy
high gas prices
a period of lessening american prestige
new threats from a more complex foreign policy
the iraq war

will obama be the next carter?

onny posted 7 months ago

yes.

JonBro posted 7 months ago

I like Carter, but it is a suspicious comparison.

eli.pousson posted 7 months ago

specious comparison even?

I wonder what the carter campaign was like... And then can you even compare a campaign to a presidency with any accuracy?

also, on those notes, the bush presidency was like the carter presidency. My metric? If obama switches us to metric.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis

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JonBro posted 7 months ago

eli, i guess that's what i'm getting at, but very vaguely.

carter may have been a good man with good governance skills, and good ideas, but he was buffeted by history. i fear obama might be the same. particularly, since america just can't do whatever it wants in this new world (as it may have felt after vietnam), he has less control, but will still shoulder the blame.

onny posted 7 months ago

"They say in the stock market ... buy stock in a business that's so good that an idiot can run it because sooner or later one will," he added.

"Well, the United States is a little like that. We can take a little mis-management from time to time," [Warren] Buffett said.

onny posted 7 months ago

man, Warren Buffett is a hero.

I think I mentioned how dope his website is before:
http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/

JonBro posted 7 months ago

"Order Berkshire Activewear On-line"

man... more money than gucci. more pimp than fendi. berkshire hathaway, brother!! i'm telling you, jay-z should sport this shit.

onny posted 7 months ago

oh, fucking a yes. I like that their lack of design extends to their clothing as well.

sorry to hijack this thread XD

JonBro posted 7 months ago

No worries, I can bring it back.

One of my worries is that McCain and his surrogates have been working hard to link Obama to Carter, specifically his recent meetings with Hamas representatives.

Just google the two and you can get a sense of that discussion. Unfortunately, none of this analysis appears to be very sophisticated or thoughtful.

eli.pousson posted 7 months ago

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